Thursday, 23 May 2013

T-shirts...

I’m constantly in trouble because of the news. Well, not the news exactly, but what I make of it. Sometimes I think it would be better to simply react to a report rather than think and try to form an opinion. It can really get me into trouble when I say what I’m thinking. Let me explain.

Last night there was a report on how Tesco clothing is made in ‘sweatshops’ in Pakistan. Workers get paid less than six pence a garment which amounts to about three pounds a day for a ten hour day. The report attempted to make the connection between the factory fire that killed so many people recently, poorly constructed factories, low wages and the huge profits being made by supermarkets like Tesco. I’m sure that there are connections and that keeping costs low does lead to practices and conditions that would not be tolerated in the western world. But let’s think about the alternative.

The reason that these factories exist is the fact that can be run cheaply and make goods at a fraction of the cost they could be made in the west. If the workforce were paid UK minimum wage the cost of the extra salary alone would make each garment produced cost twenty times the cost it is sold for now. That’s without the costs of transporting it to the UK. Add to that the cost of bringing factories up to European standards and suddenly a value T-shirt that costs £2 currently is going to cost £50 upwards – and no, I’m not exaggerating, you can do the maths as easily as I.

Now I might be being a little too objective but I can’t believe that there are many people who would be happy to pay £50 for a Tesco branded cotton T-shirt, in fact I can’t believe there are many people who would be happy to pay £50 for any T-shirt.

It’s easy to look at those Pakistani workers and cry ‘exploitation’ and ‘slave labour’. It’s also easy to decry Tesco and other chains for using cheap labour to boost their profits. But without them there wouldn’t be any ‘sweatshops’ for those workers to work in. Would that be that a good thing? They’d be jobless, and a hard life would become no life at all. Back home the cost of a new T-shirt would be almost unaffordable, certainly few people would have the choice of wardrobe they have now – not that that would necessarily be a bad thing.

We’d return to a time when we might as well make the things ourselves as have them made abroad like we used to back in the past. Back in our past of satanic mills when we worked for much lower wages – just shillings a week – and didn’t expect to own a house, a car, a mobile phone, have twenty pairs of shoes, a laptop, a tablet, a 3D, high definition, fully integrated satellite linked television and eat take-away food instead of boiling potatoes on an open range.

I agree that things can be made better for those Pakistani factory workers; safer surroundings, improved conditions, better pay. But remember where it led us… and don’t be surprised when you can’t afford to buy a new T-shirt.


11 comments:


  1. Kevin Parrott commented on Facebook:
    "True!"

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  2. Robert Mills on FB
    West / East : two different worlds and cultures.

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  3. Kevin Parrott on Facebook:
    I agree Andy!

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  4. Ian Maclachlan on FB
    Fair point well made. You can't have your Whoops! Cake and eat it.

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  5. Paul Eddison on FB
    You're 100% Correct Andy - some people think that backbreaking work in a tiny field which may or may not feed your family is preferable to sweatshop work - it's not, neither are much fun but the sweatshop pays a wage above scratching out an existence in a field. People forget that it's pretty sweaty out in a field for 12 hours a day too.

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  6. David Searle on FB
    Spot on with this one. I think there's more you could have added - if the labour costs were at western levels more and more of the work would be automated using better & better machines so fewer jobs everywhere.

    Also the economies of Pakistan & Bangadesh should be compared to the UK during the industrial revolution, not the economies we have today which were build on the wealth generated in our own mills & factories...

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    1. Andrew Height
      Funnily enough David I thought about talking about automation but decided to leave that for another post about 'the robotic dream'. But yes, a good point well made.

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  7. Richard Shore on FB
    I don't understand an economic system that results in it being cheaper to wear a tshirt once and throw it away than to wash it.

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  8. AND THE REST OF THE DEBATE!!!

    Richard Shore While other nations may be at the point we were during the industrial revolution, don't we have a duty to help rather than exploit?
    13 hours ago · Like

    Richard Shore I hope this breaks up the circle jerk a little
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    Kevin Parrott A few years ago I remember reading about students who rather than washing their shirts and dry cleaning their jackets etc. donated them to the local charity shop and bought them back for 50p or a £1 after the charity had done the cleaning.
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    Richard Shore We should track them down and let them run the country. Nobody who had been to eton would ever think of that.
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    David Searle Ah Richard you are my favourite communist on FB

    Where is your line where help becomes exploitation? If we pay double for our T-shirts have we stopped exploiting and started helping? But what if the factory owners just take the additional margin?

    Or maybe we should donate to charities and NGOs to pay for expats to stay in 5* hotels and drive around in Landcruisers? hmmm, tricky...
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  9. CONTINUED!!!

    Paul Eddison It's a voluntary trade, neither party is forced into the transaction - if these people aren't making low cost T-shirts what should they be doing? Waiting for alms from the West? Japan, china and brazil have all taken this path in the past and it has lifted more people out of poverty quicker than any other system that we devised.
    12 hours ago via mobile · Like

    Richard Shore That's the second nicest thing anybody has said to me today. Thank you. I wouldn't pretend that there is a line, nothing in this world is black and white, zebras being the exception. I don't think charity is the answer, although it does allow us to fee...See More
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    Paul Eddison "A relationship based purely on taking isn't one that really helps anybody." <--- it actually does help everyone... "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." - Adam Smith
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    Paul Eddison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx5fzBNO4l4

    Sweatshop Wages and Third-World Workers: Are the Wages Worth the Sweat?
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    Prof. Ben Powell discusses the economics of sweatshops. He begins with a few pho...See more
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  10. AND THE FINAL BIT!!

    Richard Shore That requires a very narrow definition of a society
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    Paul Eddison You can follow your own self interest and still contribute hugely to society - my tax bill testifies to this.
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    Richard Shore I don't deny that by offering people choices of work that good has been done. All I am saying is that with very little money and some effort life could be made a lot better for many people. You wouldn't even have to pay more tax, it could come from Tescos PR budget.
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    Kevin Parrott Let us enter a time machine.
    A question........
    How different would things have been if Britain had continued to administer these countries?
    Now....... imagine that everything that happened here from the end of WWII, through the 1950s & 1960s had happened as it has happened.
    But, what if the Empire hadn't broken up, and we had become a true Commonwealth sharing all the advantages, labour laws etc. that we have enjoyed in our country since 1945?
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    Richard Shore If I could enter a time machine I'd invent rock n roll. I don't think the specific country is the issue. In a capitalist system (and perhaps any system devised by humans) somebody will exploit somebody else. I accept that, and all I'm saying is can't we be nice about it?
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    Paul Eddison Interesting thought but most people prefer self determination - interestingly, most countries touched by British Colonialism/Empire have fair pretty well on a global scale post empire. Largely due to our legal system. We should drop judges on countries not bombs.
    11 hours ago · Like · 2

    Kevin Parrott Self determination hasn't worked too well in some countries.
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    Richard Shore I've managed to start a fight between 2 people who were agreeing a minute ago. My work here is done.
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    Kevin Parrott I should learn my lesson and not get involved with Andy's mates.
    Anyway ...... I'm going to pour myself a G&T, play some rock n roll on the jukebox and then do some guitar practice for next weeks gig.
    http://youtu.be/d9iT3ajYeco

    My Old Dad's Shoe, one of the songs we'll be featuring at the The KIng's Arms ~ June 1st.
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    My Old Dad's Shoe, one of the songs the band will be playing at The King's Arms Salford on June 1st. 2013.
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    David Searle Good work Richard - for bonus points you also took the position of advocating for one of our biggest most capitalist corporate multinationals mid argument
    11 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

    Paul Eddison Lets all agree to disagree and turn the volume up to 11 (on the horrible capitalist pig dog MP3 players made by small children in far away places who hopefully enjoyed a good meal tonight via put purchases) everyone's a winner!
    11 hours ago via mobile · Like

    Andrew Height Can I come out now?
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    Paul Eddison NOOOOOO!!!!!!
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